Finally I can contribute! I have plenty of lights. My best are m12 one usually around 90 bucks, but its 700 lm I believe. The Anker LC130 is superior in brightness and throw, but would not survive as well as Milwaukee products vs drops and strikes. I strongly prefer Anker for outdoor/hiking. Its large, and pricey. I used to think you got good deals on dealxtreme.com. those are cheap crap.