Festool Domino Knockdown Fasteners

Anybody see this yet:

Looks like a pretty ingenious use of the Domino’s capabilities.

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Nice find! I’ve not seen these – but have not made any knockdown furniture – other than having assembled some of it from Ikea and elsewhere over the years.

I bought a Domino XL (DF700 EQ) kit in the beginning of 2013. It came with a 12 and 14 mm cutter, trim stop, cross stop, support bracket and a collet wrench – all in a systainer (497567). I bought 2 more sort systainers (498889) to hold the dominos that I use most and their dolly (495020). I also have the handrail fence (494847).

My first project was building a pair of large exterior oak double doors for one of my kids
I soon learned about Seneca Woodworking’s aftermarket items allowing me to use smaller Dominos.
Initially I purchased 2 re-machined Festool cutters from Seneca for 5mm and 6 mm dominos.
Then in mid-2013, Seneca came out with an adapter to use the full range of smaller (DF500) Festool cutters with the XL machine so I bought it and I now have the full range of domino cutters. The adapter adds some length to the cutters - so the re-machined cutter still serve a purpose.

Seneca also makes add-on fence height anf thickness gauges for the Domino machines as well as shims that set the machine to center on ¾ and ½ inch plywood - handy if you are make lots of cabinets using dominos.

RTS Engineering is another company that makes aftermarket tooling for the Domino machines:

http://www.festoolproducts.com/RTS-Engineering-MGS-20-D-Multi-Position-Guide-Stop-p/mgs-20-d.htm?gclid=CMSSv8OB-MsCFQcfhgodb0sJ8Q

http://www.festoolproducts.com/RTS-Engineering-SCG-10-D-Self-Centering-Guide-p/scg-10.htm

Woodpeckers sells some items too for the DF500:

http://www.festoolproducts.com/Woodpecker-DF500-DSDELSET-Domino-Depth-Sleeves-p/df500-dsdelset.htm?gclid=CK_3nIeC-MsCFclkhgodpHkAig

http://www.woodpeck.com/ottdf500obs.html

I bought into the Woodpeckers One Time Tool for the DF500 – with adapters (DF500-OBS-XLA) to make it work with the 700 machine – very nice but like other Woodpecker’s items – quite pricey. I’ve used this now making a few pieces of furniture and it speed setup time - but is not essential.

Other tan these items, its handy to have a Torx #10 screwdriver, a 3mm ball-end hex (Allen) driver, and a 10mm open end wrench in the kit

I also saw these on Core77.

Looks like a great idea, but for what types of applications? Will the cost make them impractical?

Personally, I would love to use it for bed frames, or tables. It would make moving those large items that much easier, while still providing solid joinery.

These seem stronger than the Ikea type KD’s but with a similar functionality.

As with any KD’s, you sacrifice some strength and stability for convenience, so it has limited uses.

Closet casework is also a really common area for us to use KD’s as the normally have to be assembled in place.

In nearly 50 years of woodworking - both commercially and as a hobby - I’ve only made 2 beds - a platform bed with storage for a guest room and a bunk bed for a College Dorm Room. I say this because it makes me a novice. Nonetheless - I’d worry about the strength of this sort of connection as the primary means of holding a bedframe together. Compared to a typical bed bolt it seems like it might be a bit weak in resisting the “racking” forces applied to some beds

http://www.rockler.com/3-8-diameter-bed-bolt

http://www.rockler.com/heavy-duty-cross-dowel-and-bolt-8-pack?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=pla&utm_campaign=PL&sid=V9146&gclid=CM2jqf_6-csCFQhkhgodINcP1Q

I recently built a bed and wanted a knock down hidden and tool less construction, I came up with the following:

They worked out really well in the final build: