Marvel MVA-200 electricians shear cut pliers


#1

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for an upgrade to the Japanese Marvel MVA-200. Here in Australia, the MVA200 is the go-to electrician’s pliers.

Despite how popular wire stripping “electricians pliers” appear to be when searching online, I’ve never seen anyone use them here. The blades on the MVA200 will handle a wider range of cable sizes and types, while wire strippers appear to be limited to whatever size holes are on the blade. They’ll cut, strip, twist, crimp and you’ll even seen them used as hammers or spanners in a pinch.

Here’s a video of them in action

The Knipex 13 92 200 pliers are the closest thing to ‘perfect’ I could find if we disregard the redundant wire stripping holes.

knipex-13-96-200

In addition to the shear cutting blades, they’ve got:

  • a rounder crimping die (doesn’t pierce insulated crimp terminals)
  • multiple gripping surfaces (smooth, round and flat)
  • spring opening
  • sharp edges for reaming and deburring

Are there any other high quality shear cut pliers that are worth a look?

Cheers


#2

In the US - these sorts of pliers are sometimes called “lineman’s” or “side cutting electrician” pliers.
Many electricians don’t use strippers - have a “feel” for stripping insulation using the cutter blades - without nicking the solid conductor. Doing this with stranded conductors might be a bit more challenging. Also European pliers with stripping notches to fit DIN wire gauges - will not work perfectly with AWG wiring.

Stuart had just posted this about a newish pair from Klein that add some additional functions.

http://toolguyd.com/new-klein-hybrid-pliers-with-crimper/

If you like smaller pliers then this Bahco might be worth a look:

If you want a pistol-grip style:

Insulated style:

https://www.amazon.com/Klein-Tools-D2139NEINS-Cutting-Insulated/dp/B0002RI9KY/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1525271489&sr=1-1&keywords=D213-9NE-INS&dpID=31RBge5YXDL&preST=SX300_QL70&dpSrc=srch&th=1

With fish tape puller:

https://www.amazon.com/Klein-Tools-D213-9NETP-Cutting-Pulling/dp/B000BOA2GC/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1525271576&sr=1-1&keywords=D213-9NETP&dpID=31P5D2V858L&preST=SX300_QL70&dpSrc=srch


#3

Not that I know of. The majority of the options are not shear cut. KC Tool carries German made Fit pliers. They’re ok, but I wasn’t that impressed. I haven’t seen those mva-200 before. I wonder if I’ll be able to find them in the USA


#4

Lukas, me too. I had never seen them before but the Marvel name rings a bell.


#5

Thank you for the suggestions, Fred. Those Kliens do look alright, I’ll keep an eye out for reviews. The NWS pliers are great too and I actually have a pair :smile: Stripping insulation by ‘feel’ is how I’d expect an experienced electrician to work so it seems odd that tool companies would include them on electrical pliers. They’re more of a novice feature, don’t you think?

Lukas, I have definitely seen the MVA200s on a US site. Having trouble finding it again but I remember it being marketed as “The Aussie/Ozzie”…

Have a look at this poll from http://www.toolboxau.com. Not a wire stripper in sight!


#6

“Shear” cutters (would be called bypass cutters if the tool were a garden shears) do seem to be less common for “lineman style” pliers. The style is more common for cable cutters - lots of brands/choices:

https://www.zoro.com/greenlee-cable-cutter-shear-cut-9-14-in-727/i/G2900931/feature-product?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7vGb08fp2gIVC4nICh0xfgeXEAYYAiABEgIHofD_BwE

And for cutting coax


#7

I’m a union electrician in San Francisco. Almost everyone I know uses dedicated wire strippers. Not sure if it’s a regional thing, a generational thing or classification thing.